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Feb. 19th, 2002 08:42 am
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Taking to the road to again defend Bush's controversial designation of the three nations as an "axis of evil," Cheney told cheering U.S. Marines most Americans were glad Bush had spoken out.

"The president's remarks caused a certain amount of hand wringing in some quarters, but most Americans find it reassuring to have a commander-in-chief who tells the truth and who means exactly what he says," Cheney said.
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Except, of course, for the aforementioned case in Japan, whereby he says "devaluation" instead of "deflation". If, as Savage points out in reply to that post, that they really did talk of devaluation(which is quite likely), and he meant to say deflation(in order to conceal the true topic), then well, he did indeed tell the truth, but did he really mean exactly what he said? I don't think so. Problem is, his truth and what he says are morally corrupt.

Would I like to see the guy die(of natural causes, of course)? sure. But, alas, if he died, he would merely become a martyr, and somehow become a great national hero, so we must avoid this at all costs. Stay healthy, Mr. President, please don't choke on any terrorist pretzels, and as much as I know my dear readers would love to take a shot at the guy right now, please refrain, cuz it wouldn't change the power structure, and only serve to unify our idolatry of this fucking idiot.

Thank you very much.

Date: 2002-02-19 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-ambientfu951.livejournal.com
I feel the same way... just let him do his time and move on. Think about it if he died, Cheney is next in line and with his rollarcoaster health we could very easily slip into something very bad and much worse than what it is now.

Date: 2002-02-19 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] symbioid.livejournal.com
First, I'd say see my reply to Denis, it answers my thoughts on this matter.('cept for, perhaps, the heart attack idea)...

Secondly, I've thought about the idea(and I think you or Suki posted something recently about this), that the war is going to be the trigger. That, if it is a decade long war, then where does that put us? 2002, plus 10 years... well shit... 2012! Just a thought. It'll be interesting to see how long he can hold popularity, though.

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Date: 2002-02-19 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-ambientfu951.livejournal.com
well I think he's definitly got a good shot at winning the next election. I guess we'll see what happens in four years.

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Date: 2002-02-19 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-ambientfu951.livejournal.com
I read D's entry and your reply and I couldn't agree more. I feel like there may be an attempt on his life so that we could dive deeper into what is already going on. matyrdom is so easily brought on by death. It's scary. as for the 2012 thing I think you're dead on. I feel like as we grow closer to that date keys will be shown. This year is one of them, being that it's 2002 a decade left. I'm going to meditate on it this year and see if I can find some answers.

Date: 2002-02-19 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tomorrow-landed.livejournal.com

yup- the wtc disaster already elevated this fucking moron to a fairly high status in many american's minds; merely because he happened to be the one in office at a time of crisis.

i agree with you and ambfus; let him just leave and then lets hope and pray that the american people wisen up abit and vote say green party or something else even(at least gore was pro environment!)...

Cheney= badddd news...


we dont want him as pres. Imagine: an 'intelligent' corrupt official in office, rather than just a corrupt 'village idiot' with family ties


Date: 2002-02-19 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] symbioid.livejournal.com
Hmm, ok, I'll post about alternatives prolly tonight(about voting and shit... I've been debating it quite a bit to myself, and want to get input.) Basically, though, while I admire the Green Party, and I hate the whole "lesser of two evils(or evil of two lessers, as Bo Gritz used to say)", I feel we gotta get the Reps outta there. Yet, I don't know about Dems. One party, two faces. Like I said, I'll post more about that in my journal as an entry.

Also, though Gore talks the talk of an environmentalist, and he indeed has done some good in pushing for things, it cannot be denied that he has a large amount of Occidental Petroleum stock. Occidental, if you're not familiar with them, are a company who is trying to put a pipeline in Uwa tribal territory(I forget which country, alas) in South America.(I'm not sure what the latest news is whether or not they have succeeded) The Uwa have threatened mass suicide if the plan goes through. Mr. Gore has these links, and it taints him as well(maybe not as bad as Bush, but still, he's certainly not a real environmentalist)... The Bush administration, much as I hate most of their policy, is at least investing in Hydrogen Fuel Cell research, which is more than the "pro-environment" Clinton administration(who only wanted to improve fuel efficiency, without looking at real alternatives). Not defending Bush, cuz he cut back on mandated fuel efficiency rules, and the amount of money put into fuel cell research is pretty minimal, but it's a start. Anyways... I'll post more on my personal dilemma about dem/rep/green voting(and yes, I voted for nader, and don't necessarily feel bad about it)...

Secondly, w/regards to Mr. Heart Attack Veep. Yes, he's "intelligent/wily/crafty", but I think the point has to be made(as I say to Rosemary quite often) that it's not the person, but the administration. Bush is merely a puppet for larger entities, as would Cheney. It's not that they are "bought out" by Enron, say, but rather, believe in this line of thought already. They all have the same goals. Maybe Cheney would be a bit(ok a LOT) more eloquent, and if this is the case, yes, Cheney would be a problem, but at the same time, the overall goals are the same. Perhaps propaganda wise, he'd be a wiser choice.

Don't be too surprised if the National Security Forces takes out Mr. Bush to solidify his martyrdom, and to consolidate power with a more intelligent Mr. Cheney who can act as a better spokesman for the police state... Just like Dan Quayle was a smart choice for George Sr. Who'd wanna kill the prez if Quayle gets into power, so is Bush(in this turn of events) ideal for presidential fodder, because, as we agree, who wants to make a martyr out of this chump?

Date: 2002-02-19 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tomorrow-landed.livejournal.com
i didnt know that info bout Gore.

"One party, two faces" ...how true


i'd be interested in hearing more as i honestly have no real opinion eaither way at this point in time. In the past i have felt like it is completely irrelevant either (or any other)way since it is the system itself which is tainted with corruption. But nowadays, i think i would actually vote if it was for someone whom i felt could actually help effect real change in this country....how bout libertarians?

i guess i just dunno since i think the entire system will by necessity have to fall, before the final change can take place,( but i digress...)


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