Plasmatic life-forms

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This is what I talk about when I "dis" the whole "radio-wave" discovery of alien life-forms(well, this is only part of it)...

I've never been too keen on the assumption that life must be carbon(or even silicon as some people have noted as a possibility) life form. I'm not to sure on what I think about water as a necessary condition. But this.....

This is interesting. A "life-form" made of plasma(maybe about as life-formish as virii?)...

This is what I think alien life would be more like. Or maybe like something from Solaris... Anyways, I think we limit ourselves too much in thinking of what life could be, and also that limitation also causes "culturally bound assumptions"(as Terence McKenna terms it) about what it is to contact aliens. I don't know if I agree with his hypothesis of the Mushroom Mycelial networked mind/consciousness from outerspace, but it's at least a view that points out there are other possibilities for the explanation.

I'm also not big on Crick's theory of Panspermia. It's more of the same sort of "god" shit. Why is it necessary to have organic material come from outer-space to earth? If it was necessary, then where did this organic material come from? And why did it develop there and not here? And if it only "migrated" there, where did this chain of being begin. The only reason I could see a need for panspermia would be if there were some indication of non-native chemical substance. But it would have to be a chemical substance that would readily intereact with the environment. If there is no indication of this, if the arising of organic life can be explained by the already existent molecules and energetic environment, why panspermia?

This correlates with the "Inifinite chain of being" of god... If there is a necessary cause, then god must be necessarily caused. I don't quite get the idea that God is the first cause. Why is god different in this regards? That's what the Theologians say: God is the unmoved mover, the uncaused cause.

I think the problem is they use liner-time-sequence analogy. They also say god is the "ground of being". In this sense I can agree. God is the ground of being. If you remove the ground of being from a specific locus in time, and diffuse it across all temporal dimensionality (and spatial dimensionality), you have a ground of being that is the cause... But it does not have to be a point in time requiring other, a priori temporal points... God is still not "uncaused", rather, gods cause is the actual creation itself. God cannot exist without, what I like to cal,l the "S.T.E.M. Cell" (Space. Time. Energy. Matter. Cell (cell as in both biological and in prison --- analagous to the Black Iron Prison of Philip K Dick or the Maya of Hinduism))

God is the cybernetic entity that exists as a result of our being, but it is also the ground of our being. God is both creator and parasite. Sustainer and devourer. The aether and the void. The above and the below, the without and the within.

To say god is "first" is to create a false dichotomy. By merely saying "first" you create "last"... But it is not the case. God is a unified whole with the cosmos. It is the chicken and the egg (or is it the Serpent and the Egg?)

I found something interesting while reading about the Digha Nikaya: The Buddha was conversing with Brahma one day and Brahma said essentially that he was the creator of all. Buddha realized that Brahma was self-deluded. Brahma had convinced himself he was the supreme deity and he convinced a fair number of other "devas" that he was the supreme lord, and they worshipped him as well. The gods are caught up in the illusion of maya just as mankind. In a sense, this is a quite gnostic rendering. Brahma could be said to be similar to Yaldabaoth/Jehovah: The Demiurge. The deluded creator who believes there is none above him...

anyways, whatever. just some more mused ramblings...

btw: Muse. Inspired. Would you not think that laughter is inspired? If the prefix "a-" means "not/without"(ie: agnostic, atheist, etc...) would not amused mean "without muse"? Doesn't this seem odd? Must check out etymology and see if I'm wrong...
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Physicists have created blobs of gaseous plasma that can grow, replicate and communicate - fulfilling most of the traditional requirements for biological cells. Without inherited material they cannot be described as alive, but the researchers believe these curious spheres may offer a radical new explanation for how life began.

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As George Wald said when he received his Nobel prize, "there are two problems that are rooted in science but unassimalable as science: consciousness and cosmology". I don't expect science to be able to solve the major problems of life any time soon. You may remember that even the Buddha said that it is useless to try to talk about or discuss the concept of "God" because we are limited to the scope of our own thinking about the universe - he was, in fact, a theologian and an atheist at the same time.

And yet, that article is interesting in how it describes the evolution of a cell like system. The scientists merely cannot tell whether it has consciousness or not. The same could be said of the evolution of the body of a human... at what point does it gain life? Not a clue.