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symbioidljAlso, found this little gem in the Tao te Ching. Does this mean Tao is anti-copyright? (I tend to think it's a natural fit, anti-copyright and tao):
Therefore all things arise from Tao.
By Virtue they are nourished,
Developed, cared for,
Sheltered, comforted,
Grown, and protected.
Creating without claiming,
Doing without taking credit,
Guiding without interfering,
This is Primal Virtue
My interpretation is that the Tao is the source, and thus, we cannot claim or take credit for that which is sourced in the Tao. Maybe it means that the Tao creates without claiming or taking credit, it merely is. But it seems to me that both ways are correct, since there is no difference between Tao and self. If one is view is correct, so is the other.
But, the tendency in the hacker community is meritocracy. Even if you do not "claim" as in staking proprietary rights over your creation, you still take credit and gain notoriety for your work, which is still seemingly against the tao.
This is maybe why the Residents and Negativland are probably the most Tao.
Prince and Madonna are probably the anti-Tao.
What about people like Britney and Avril who don't create but falsly claim? I would think this is anti-Tao, but who knows?
As an aside. I had a hard time remembering Negativland's name. I remembered Dyspepsia and the U2 album, but had a hell of a time with their name. So I put myself into the music store space. Mentally navigated to where i knew the albums were, and their name came to me. The ancient mnemotechnic of utilizing space to remember things seems similar. It's not quite the same, but close enough for me.
Therefore all things arise from Tao.
By Virtue they are nourished,
Developed, cared for,
Sheltered, comforted,
Grown, and protected.
Creating without claiming,
Doing without taking credit,
Guiding without interfering,
This is Primal Virtue
My interpretation is that the Tao is the source, and thus, we cannot claim or take credit for that which is sourced in the Tao. Maybe it means that the Tao creates without claiming or taking credit, it merely is. But it seems to me that both ways are correct, since there is no difference between Tao and self. If one is view is correct, so is the other.
But, the tendency in the hacker community is meritocracy. Even if you do not "claim" as in staking proprietary rights over your creation, you still take credit and gain notoriety for your work, which is still seemingly against the tao.
This is maybe why the Residents and Negativland are probably the most Tao.
Prince and Madonna are probably the anti-Tao.
What about people like Britney and Avril who don't create but falsly claim? I would think this is anti-Tao, but who knows?
As an aside. I had a hard time remembering Negativland's name. I remembered Dyspepsia and the U2 album, but had a hell of a time with their name. So I put myself into the music store space. Mentally navigated to where i knew the albums were, and their name came to me. The ancient mnemotechnic of utilizing space to remember things seems similar. It's not quite the same, but close enough for me.
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Date: 2003-05-04 02:33 pm (UTC)I don't know exactly what I think of copyright. I'm not totally against the concept. But I don't like what's become of it. I think the excuse for it is silly(ie: it's a way to promote the sciences/arts...) It's been pointed out that innovation has always happened, even before the legal fiction of copyright.
I mean, I don't want people just stealing my work(or whatever piddly output that I would like to consider I have done with any attempt at meaning regardless of how pathetic it is)... But I don't wanna be bitch about it either. FEh.
"Can't touch this head filled with disease"??? Sounds like fun to me!
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Date: 2003-05-04 06:05 pm (UTC)I remember reading something like that...
Speaking of copywrite's n such, you should download Negativeland's "iam god" if ya havent heard it. It's my personal fav. of theirs. It's got some weird and somewhat troubling samples of some of the excessively racist comments some religous zealots said back around the 60's- but then there is an over running sample in which someone says: IAM God, You Are God...We Are ALL GOD...
peace