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Jun. 14th, 2003 05:05 pm
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if you've got broadband, check out Howard Dean TV

I really really really hope he gets the democratice nomination.

You can see many interviews and speeches by Howard Dean at this site... I think this is what the democratic party needs. A candidate who isn't part of the "network", one who isn't afraid to think outside the box, yet isn't just another member of the DLC(Democratic Leadership Council, who happens to be basically republicans who are pro-abortion or something... The DLC continually attacks anybody who is left of center, and proclaim themselves as the ONLY option for the democratic party, without realizing that they are the problem. ) Howard Dean is somewhat conservative, yes... Fiscally, at least, but he's moderate about it. He's not like tax-cut, he's fiscally RESPONSIBLE. While at the same time recognizing fundamental values that are necessary for a healthy democracy.

He supports abortion... Women's rights... Education... And his stance on gun control is unique... He supports the controls we have in place at the federal government, but believes that states should make laws that are more effective for their own populace.

He hit's Bush hard, but in a great way that's not extremist, nor does he capitulate. He's not afraid to criticize democrats who sold out, but he doesn't attack them all out like the DLC does. At least, that's how I see it.

He's got momentum, but please let people know about him if you can... Educate yourself on his campaign and stances. Maybe you disagree with him, but I think he's the best chance the Dems have...

We just need to get Bush OUT!

Date: 2003-06-15 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rflagg.livejournal.com
My biggest problem with everyone of the fucking dems is that they waited until now to critize Bush.

Let him fuck up the already bad economy, let him start this war which will forever tarnish our country, let him get away with so much shit that it makes one sick to think about it all...but wait until campaign time to speak up about it. An insanely small part of me wants to not vote at all because of this - but, my vote is too important to throw away. But, in my mind, there are very few who are different from all the other politicans (Senator Byrd, McCain) that actually had the decency to make the majority of the country not think the entire system could care less about what the people thought.

Still, the obvious stands - I don't care if it's Richard Nixon running post humously against Bush, he's still got my vote. As it stands right now, the only person in history that has been more evil at the core than Bush (and even moreso I'd argue with Ashcroft, Rumsfield, and all his other cronies) would be Hitler. One could argue though that others such as Pol Pot and the like would be, for killing more people, but I don't know much about them personally to decide.

So, yeah, go for 2004!!!!!

-m.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] symbioid.livejournal.com
OK, well, for a lot of it I agree. For most of the Democratic candidates you could say that. At least, for the ones you're hearing about, and the ones that have a fighting chance(except...) Yes... Dean. Dean HAS been critical ALL along. Because he's not a senator or Rep, you don't have a chance to see how he voted, but he's been speaking on the campaign trail about this long enough.

Now, also, there's Dennis Kucinich, who is my ideal candidate. He is the leader of the Democratic Progressive Caucus, and votes VERY liberally. But again, no-one hears of him, because 1) he doesn't have a hell of a lot of money, and 2) he's very very liberal/progressive.

As for Byrd, I wholeheartedly agree. The ONLY reason he's being heard, however, isn't because he's the only one(like I mentioned Kucinich... There's also Barbara Lee from CA, and previously, Cynthia McKinney from GA(who got voted out last election... sigh) Feingold has been pretty vocal, and you know Baldwin, for the most part, is on the right track...)

Listen to Dean, and hear what he's saying. Unlike the DLC who is proposing to capitulate MORE to the republicans, he says the Dems need to start having a spine and stand for principals instead of being "republican-lite" (as he puts it)... Now, he's still not a hardcore lefty by any means, and that's why I support him. He's moderate enough to have a chance, but hasn't sold his soul to the fucking republican party, like Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards, and most of all.... Lieberman. The ones you hear most of, and most likely, cuz they don't want you to know that there is a chance. They(the media) WANT you to feel hopeless.

Part 2 of reply(too long for one post)

Date: 2003-06-15 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] symbioid.livejournal.com
Now, as far as Bush/Hitler. That, I believe is really a VERY unfair, and unjust comparison. Believe you me, I can't stand the guy. And of course, we don't know his full plans. Hitler, however, we did from the get-go. He wrote a little book "Mein Kampf"... Bush, of course, CAN'T write a damn thing, period. I'd love to see his "Presidential letters" someday... heh. Seriously though. Bush is more like some african warlord than Hitler.

There has been no pure genocide. This doesn't mean that the US doesn't practice atrocious things in all our wars, but that's the US, NOT just Bush. Bush tactics are more similar to the Eastern Germans, setting up a big brother state, than it is to Nazi Germany... His financial policies are more akin to the Fascisti...

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation(USA! USA! USA!) and often race(I don't believe this was completely true of the Italian Fascisti, and in America, one can't remain in power and be completely truly racist, like a fucking skinhead nazi) above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation(rich get richer, poor get poorer), and forcible suppression of opposition...

Of course, this isn't quite where it's at, but maybe if he had his way, it would.

Let's just say that I don't think it's really fair to make a blanket statement like that. It's certainly not fair the the 6 million who have been gassed in chambers... Jews, Gays, Roma, etc...

And again, the only reason I'm voting Democratic(reluctantly if it's any of the DLC guys, or the more conservative Lieberman), is to GET BUSH OUT! It must be done. There can be no other option. I wish the Green party was a viable party, but at this point, it will only fracture a united opposition necessary to remove this bitch from power. This is why I'm a little bothered by Kucinich's candidacy. He is taking the left-wing votes from the most-likely receiever(Dean), and having these people use him as a "protest" vote, but.... That leaves the even MORE right-wing Dems to have power(which they already have enough of), and a better chance, and thus, the democratic nominee will end up being one who we KNOW FOR A FACT has sold their soul. Dean seems to have stood up for principles while governor(you know he DID sign the Gay Partnership bill in Vermont, right?) He's for Gay rights, Womens' Rights, the basic right to carry arms(Anthony will like that one, right?), the environment and education, but brings a unique perspective that's not just the same old rhetoric.

Now, I'm not saying he's gonna be god. He's gonna have to compromise(they all do... that's what demoracy is), but he seems to have a little more balls than the rest of these rich, elitest assholes.

So please support Dean. At the very least, instead of saying "Dems suck cuz they're only now speaking out" listen to Dean and hear what he's saying. You may not agree with it all(I certainly don't), but I think he's got a good tactic, as well as mostly correct. But I digress....................................

Re: Part 2 of reply(too long for one post)

Date: 2003-06-16 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rflagg.livejournal.com
Dude, don't get your panties all in a bunch.

If you'll read what I wrote, instead of seeing Bush and Hitler and think I'm making a comparison, you'll see quite obviously that I in fact purposfully didn't make one. I simply stated that as far as modern history goes, Bush would be a better choice if Hitler was running against him - meaning Hitler is far worse than Bush, obviously. I know about the 6 million Jews, I'm not a crazy brainwashed fuck like Mel Gibson's father who doesn't believe it happened - take a ride out here and we'll go to the holocaust museum. It's by far the most well done, yet depressing and just amazing (in a sad way, of course) thing you'll ever see, hands down. Ask Angie about it sometimes. My brain will forever be haunted by the images of two rooms - the one with hundreds upon thousands of shoes; the other being inside one of the railway cars used to transport an untold number of innocents to their death. But, also don't forget that Hitler was voted in, regardless of how much of a sick fuck he was - he didn't single handedly kill 6 million people, which I think makes it so much more sad, that so many people could be convinced that they were doing right when they were so very far off.

Anyway, it's beside the point. The real point is that regardless of who *we* like for the dems, it's going to be the most middle of the road choice the dems can come up with at the convention - I'm guessing someone with a name we'd all know (which unfortunately leaves Lieberman, which will only put us in the place of people being retarded again and voting green, keeping Bush in office - let's just hope that never ever ever happens again though). Regardless, let's just say that if I find a way to vote more than once this time around, I'll be doing so. Bush doesn't play by the rules, so neither will I.

-m.

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