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[symbioidlj]

It's this that makes me wanna boycott the matrix altogether. What kind of asinine statement is this, from the producer of all people. If he thinks we're that stupid, maybe we're stupid enough to believe the half-baked pseudo-philosophy shoddily built into the framework of these movies(heh heh, ya know I'm just parodying my own self, really, so don't get so offended... :)):
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05/28/02
Producer Joel Silver said of the effects, "[The Wachowski brothers] decided that, in these two movies, they would create visual effects that could never be copied. So we have done visual effects for the movie that, because of the time that we took to make them and the cost, will never be seen again. So I really think that the bar has been raised so high that, you know, there is no bar. This will end the way movies have been made up to now, because they can go no further." (Film Force)

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[vesicular.livejournal.com]

LOL, that's the lamest thing I've ever heard. So, what, nobody can copy CGI? Cuz most of that shit was CGI anyway.

"there is no bar"? Shit, I think he's been drinking too much of the Matrix cool-aid. First spoons, now bars, right.

dude, chill.

[rflagg.livejournal.com]

You need to remember, you're talking Joel Silver. He's in the same category as Michael Bay, Jerry Bruckheimer, and so on. You know the type: "Hey, lets zoom in during the fight scenes (happens a few times in M2, I'm willing to overlook stupid producers though if the movie is decent enough)", or "Hey, lets pan around real fast, then slow down!"

The biggest problem I have with these kind of directors/producers, is they are right. It's the shit infested hollywood machine that forces us to hear "One Week" by Barenaked Ladies, while they place record scratching in parts where you are supposed to think "OH MY GOD, THAT'S SO OUT OF PLACE!", and show you the whole fucking movie in the preview (aka, Italian Job, thanks - it looked like a decent movie, now I don't want to see it.) On a side note, Anthony made a spoof trailer mp3 for lord of the rings, with the stupid clear channel mass produced shit music, record scratches, and so on - it's pretty funny, I'll send it to you if you like.

John Malkovich's interview with the Onion last week, he mentioned how people will go into a movie with certain prejudices to it - ie, in Episode I, Jar Jar is making fun of African Americans. Whether or not it's the case, it's what they'll walk away with, regardless of what is really in the movie. I think that's the case with you, that you've already decided that you'll not like it, even if it's because of Joel Silver's feeling on "TNBT" (The Next Big Thing).

As an aside, as stated earlier, I feel what pisses me off most is that these guys are right when they do stupid shit like put overplayed radio songs in previews, along with record scratches, etc. Why? Well, just look at George Bush's presidency. No one cares. We scream from the top of our lungs until they are bloody with the discontent of the destruction of the intellectual America, and nothing happens. We destroy Iraq. We can't even catch Osama or Hussein, yet Bush is still in power? Why? The majority of people are cattle, and they don't care. It's the reason Daddy Day Care is a top box office hit. People don't like to lead, people don't like to know, people don't like to be aware - they only want to coast through life and not have to think about anything, except how many idiot babies to mass produce so our world can be filled with more starvation, pollution, hate, and greed.

Hell, I enjoyed Matrix Reloaded for one simple reason alone - the cheap shot at George Bush. During the architect scene, the architect is explaining how the perfect matrix didn't work, and the implementation of the imperfect world, by applying 'the humans varying degrees of grotesqueness'. Behind him are dozens of screens showing various things, and they show a quick flash of Hitler, then George Bush right after he says the word 'grotesqueness', which makes Anthony and I laugh out loud (but again, the rest of the theater fails to notice, since he's not farting or making an obvious joke that isn't even funny).

Anyway, just my thoughts on the problems with our world.

-m.

Re: dude, chill.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

Heh... Well, I agree with most of what you say.

Now, I'm not going to go into all my thoughts on it(we watched it yesterday), I'm saving that for a regular post... That said:

I heard about the Bush thing, and strangely, I wasn't looking for it, but we was the one that I actually happened to see the most... I didn't notice Hitler or anyone else during the speech, then suddenly, the profile of Papa(it seemed to me that it was papa bush, wasn't it??? When I read about it, I thought they'd show jr, but it looked like sr) Anyways, yeah, I got a kick outta that.

Now, actually, the reverse is true(though, maybe deep down, you are correct) I didn't like it as much as I wanted to, not because I thought it would suck, but because I thought it would suck, I actually DID have an expectation that it would be better than I thought(hence, not really thinking it would be bad... make sense?) So by me saying: I have no expectations, therefore, I hope to be pleasantly surprised, I ended up putting an expectation of being pleasantly surprised. Thus defeating the purpose. Rosemary pointed that out to me.

Now, I actually plan on seeing it again at some point, because I want to catch everything they're saying. I'm a bit disappointed in it, I admit, and not just cuz of expectations...

Looking at it from the standpoint of a Hollywood movie(which is what happened with the first one, ya know, like "Shit, look at all this philosophical undertone in a mass-budget movie!!!" And it's there in this one, but much less subtle, which in a way is good, but I think it may have been a little too convoluted.

I won't go into all my thoughts here, cuz as I said, I plan on posting my thoughts in a real post.

I'm at work now, so I gotta jet... but look for the critique/review at some point soon... :)

I promise not to be harsh, yes there will be some disappointment shining through, but also I'll post the little bit of pleasure that I found inside, along with some conjecture/hypothesis.

I must also say that I feel that some of my enjoyment was spoiled by... well... you guessed it: Spoilers. The french/wiping ass with silk joke, would probably have been a lot funnier had I not already read about it. *sigh* That's my own damn fault, and I promise next time not to actually read any spoilers anymore... :) More on the ass-silk in the real post.

Bye.