LOLWUT?

[symbioidlj]

The following ports are what EA/Mythic tells you to open for Warhammer:
# Conversely, make sure the following ports are opened in your router's security settings:

* UDP port 1024-65535
* TCP port 8040-8049
* TCP port 10622

Yes. 65535 is the last port on a router. They are telling you to open up UDP ports 1024 to the very end. What percent is that? 80 percent open? They want you to open 80% of your UDP ports?

Is there something about UDP that is safer than TCP? Can they possibly use all 60+k ports? That's fucking stupid. Seriously, who designs a game like that?

Comments

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

UDP is just faster. Why they have that range, who knows. All I can think of is they connect to a random UDP port every time you play. Why this matters, who knows. I'm sure they're only using UDP for position data anyway.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

I don't mind that it's udp. What bothers me is that it's 80% of the ports open. As someone else said "what's the point of a firewall?"

Obviously, there's still 20% protected, but you don't leave 80% of your doors unlocked. Especially when you can design a system that doesn't require it. I mean look at WoW, there's only a small range...

So it's just ridiculous, I think.

That said, yeah... that means I dl'd the demo. You know me, I have to try it. I'm sure I won't like it, but it's still something I'm curious about. Heh.

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

It sucks. It's a WoW wannabe and nowhere near as good.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

Oh, so you've tried it then?

No, I know it's not as good, but mostly because it's PvP, and I hate PvP.

But they've done some interesting mechanics that I want to see. Just cuz it "sucks" doesn't mean that they might not have some interesting ideas.

I'm sure there's plenty other problems besides the pvp, but again... my main point is to see what something like public quests are. I forgot what else, but there's a couple other features they created that sound like potentially interesting.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

and define "wow wannabe"?

Greenskins? Cartoony graphics?

Considering greenskins/orcs/goblins, etc... were in Warhammer, when WoW was just a glint in someone's eye, I think it's fair to call wow a ripoff in that regards. But I'm hoping you mean it in some other way.

But I don't think there's anything there that's really a wow ripoff more than wow was a ripoff of say, EQ...

But I don't know until I hear more of your reasonings :)

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

Just go play it and you'll see. It's horrible.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

also, sorry, i don't mean to come off as snippy or anything, i was just honestly curious and not understanding. but yeah, i'll be playing it soon enough. it takes a whole damn night just to download the patch of the demo!!!

i mean, if you're gonna advertise a free demo, then have the latest version up. but i suppose you're demoing the painful patch process, too. but there goes 1 day of demo time, heh.

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

BTW if you want to play a unique MMO that is actually interesting, try EVE.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

EVE is the tl;dr of MMOs

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

Yes, but if you're honestly curious of new play mechanics, etc, that is where you want to look. It's so f'n deep.

[symbioid.livejournal.com]

Yeah, true.

I respect it for what it is and what I've read about it. But demoing a game like that is kind of futile. You won't really get the depth and complexity, I think. Of course, reading about it really helps to get that sense of emergent gameplay.

I understand you're point.

I do hope they still make the WoD game, and that, even if not exactly like EVE (PvP, blech) -- they incorporate some of that depth somehow.

But yeah I guess when it comes down to it, most MMOs are sort of based off of EQ and such (which of course were based off of MUDs and hence DnD, etc...)

I don't want a game where I *have* to belong to some guild in order to just survive. Which I think EVE tends to be. I could be wrong.

[vesicular.livejournal.com]

WoW was one of the first where you didn't have to be, you could solo the entire game (until the very end game). I think this is why it's been so popular. Just about every other MMO is, well, an MMO.